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ObamaCare -- Democrats Revert To Form -- Send ACORN & SEIU Union Thugs to Bust Up Healthcare Townhalls

By Gary Starr for the Neville Awards
August 7, 2009

Russ Carnahan Townhall Videos
Cathy Castor Townhall Videos
Peggy Noonan-Voters send a message to Washington, and get an ugly response.

Updated August 10, 2009-Healthcare Bill is Huge Giveaway to ACORN

In response to the 'angry mobs' that dared to ask questions of their representatives at townhall meetings Obama called out the Organizing for America drones -- SEIU and ACORN.

Senior White House adviser David Axelrod and deputy chief of staff Jim Messina told senators to focus on the insured and how they would benefit from "consumer protections" in the overhaul, such as ending the practice of denying insurance based on preexisting conditions and ensuring the continuity of coverage between jobs.

"If you get hit, we will punch back twice as hard," Messina said, according to an official who attended the meeting.

Obama response to the opposition -- Sit down and shut up. I'm in charge here!! The Chicago Way...

Obama: "But I don't want the folks who created the mess to do a lot of talking. I want them to get out of the way so we can clean up the mess. I don't mind cleaning up after them, but don't do a lot of talking."

We at Neville have said it from the beginning about the Fraudinator-in-Chief...liar, cheap Chicago pol, ACORN thug, union thug, con artist, Marxist and political grifter.

The Beard Scratching Ivory Tower NY Times rat-freak and fake economist Paul Krugman writes:

...this is something new and ugly. What’s behind it?

Robert Gibbs, the White House press secretary, has compared the scenes at health care town halls to the “Brooks Brothers riot” in 2000 — the demonstration that disrupted the vote count in Miami and arguably helped send George W. Bush to the White House. Portrayed at the time as local protesters, many of the rioters were actually G.O.P. staffers flown in from Washington.

But Mr. Gibbs is probably only half right. Yes, well-heeled interest groups are helping to organize the town hall mobs. Key organizers include two Astroturf (fake grass-roots) organizations: FreedomWorks, run by the former House majority leader Dick Armey, and a new organization called Conservatives for Patients’ Rights.

New and ugly? The Democrat-controlled unions have been beating up people since dinosaurs walked the earth. Krugman, you are a lying little piece of excrement and a total tool. No one got beat up at these healthcare townhalls until Obama gave the word to the OBOTS (Obama robots). Democrats are such pussies that they can't take a little confrontation and harsh language.

At the Russ Carnahan fake townhall in St. Louis ACORN & SEIU union thugs beat up a black man handing out 'Don't Tread On Me' flags. The Kabuki theater that was this townhall began when SEIU union members were let in hours before the meeting and regular folks were left standing outside in 90 degree heat.

Obviously no controversial questions were going to be allowed...just the approved ones.

Carnahan was ducked out when the ruckus started.

Kenneth Gladney, a 38-year-old conservative activist from St. Louis, said he was attacked by some of those arrested as he handed out yellow flags with "Don't tread on me" printed on them. He spoke to the Post-Dispatch from the emergency room of the St. John's Mercy Medical Center, where he said he was waiting to be treated for injuries to his knee, back, elbow, shoulder and face that he suffered in the attack. Gladney, who is black, said one of his attackers, also a black man, used a racial slur against him before the attack started.

At the Kathy Castor fake townhall SEIU union thugs roughed up an elderly couple and prevented protestors from entering the hall.

And we are the thugs? Liberal hypocrisy and projection on steroids.

Gateway Pundit-- ACORN & SEIU Thugs at The Carnahan Townhall

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Over 1,000 St. Louis Tea Party Taxpayers showed up at the Russ Carnahan town hall meeting in South St. Louis tonight.
They were Locked Out!

But...The Carnahan staff was sneaking in ACORN & SEIU members in the side door marked "handicapped."

Here's the video:

In this video you see one Carnahan supporter allowed into the meeting at Bernard Middle School through a side door. There were 1,000 tea party taxpayers stranded outside the main door.
When two SEIU members attempted to get in the same side door marked "handicapped" the crowd went nuts and blocked them at the door. Did you notice how nonchalant the SIEU members were about getting inside the door? Like they knew right where to go.

Look at this turnout--


Inside the gym was the roped off into two sections. One was for the tea party taxpayers and quickly filled up when they opened the doors at 6:00 PM.
The other section was marked "reserved" and this section was saved for the union members.
The rest of the crowd was locked out!

The line outside went clear around the front of the building at 6:20 PM- 40 minutes before the start of the meeting. They had already locked the doors.

More... Irate Tea Party "Mob" Breaks Out in Song at Carnahan Town Hall event:

After being locked out of the Russ Carnahan town hall in south St. Louis, the 1,000 strong Tea Party Mob broke out in song outside the meeting. The crowd was not pleased that the Carnahan people were sneaking in union thugs at this door on the side of buildin.

August 06, 2009-Violence Erupts At Rep. Castor's Town Hall In Tampa

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Kathy Castor Event In Tampa Ends With SEIU Pushing Out Voters

Early reports coming in from Florida indicate the hastily scheduled townhall with Kathy Castor ended badly, as predicted, because of SEIU thugs.

The event was conveniently held in a forum where only 250 people could fit. 1000 people showed up. SEIU members were given reserved seating that took up at least half of the 250 seats. As people came in who visibly oppose the Democrats healthcare plan, SEIU members barred access to the room.

Democrat event organizers slammed one senior citizen into the wall as he and his wife tried to enter. The couple were opposed to Obamacare and made it known.

Randy Arthur of Oldsmar said he was injured and intended to file a police complaint. He was outside the meeting room with his wife, Kathy Arthur, when organizers tried to close the doors.

She said he was slammed against a wall. Arthur later talked to police officers, his knit shirt ripped and a few scratches visible on his chest.

Fat ugly-ass Democratic operative Karen Miracle was caought slapping Barry Osteen, who was debating her husband, Garry. "We have the best health care system in the world and I'm completely happy with what we have," Osteen said.

As Rep. Kathy Castor was introduced, the reaction was overwhelmingly against her. And in the lobby, the counter of Planned Parenthood representatives shouting, "Healthcare Now."

Castor tried to speak for nearly 15 minutes but the crowd drowned her out, booing and chanting, "You work for us,'' "Tyranny, tyranny,''Forty-million illegals!' and "Read the bill." She ultimately left the meeting early, further angering some attendees.

Shortly thereafter, violence erupted, where SEIU goons came out and started pushing those in line, and roughing up one in the corner as well as another being put in a choke hold. Per the above video: Directly in front of the gentleman in the plaid type shirt, is one of them in a flower print. To right of the phone, another in a white shirt. Keep your eye on him, as he then goes for the choke hold on one of the people.

Voters send a message to Washington, and get an ugly response.

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AUGUST 7, 2009

We have entered uncharted territory in the fight over national health care. There's a new tone in the debate, and it's ugly. At the moment the Democrats are looking like something they haven't looked like in years, and that is: desperate.

They must know at this point they should not have pushed a national health-care plan. A Democratic operative the other day called it "Hillary's revenge." When Mrs. Clinton started losing to Barack Obama in the primaries 18 months ago, she began to give new and sharper emphasis to her health-care plan. Mr. Obama responded by talking about his health-care vision. He won. Now he would push what he had been forced to highlight: Health care would be a priority initiative. The net result is falling support for his leadership on the issue, falling personal polls, and the angry town-hall meetings that have electrified YouTube.

In his first five months in office, Mr. Obama had racked up big wins-the stimulus, children's health insurance, House approval of cap-and-trade. But he stayed too long at the hot table. All the Democrats in Washington did. They overinterpreted the meaning of the 2008 election, and didn't fully take into account how the great recession changed the national mood and atmosphere.

And so the shock on the faces of Congressmen who've faced the grillings back home. And really, their shock is the first thing you see in the videos. They had no idea how people were feeling. Their 2008 win left them thinking an election that had been shaped by anti-Bush, anti-Republican, and pro-change feeling was really a mandate without context; they thought that in the middle of a historic recession featuring horrific deficits, they could assume support for the invention of a huge new entitlement carrying huge new costs.

The passions of the protesters, on the other hand, are not a surprise. They hired a man to represent them in Washington. They give him a big office, a huge staff and the power to tell people what to do. They give him a car and a driver, sometimes a security detail, and a special pin showing he's a congressman. And all they ask in return is that he see to their interests and not terrify them too much. Really, that's all people ask. Expectations are very low. What the protesters are saying is, "You are terrifying us."

What has been most unsettling is not the congressmen's surprise but a hard new tone that emerged this week. The leftosphere and the liberal commentariat charged that the town hall meetings weren't authentic, the crowds were ginned up by insurance companies, lobbyists and the Republican National Committee. But you can't get people to leave their homes and go to a meeting with a congressman (of all people) unless they are engaged to the point of passion. And what tends to agitate people most is the idea of loss-loss of money hard earned, loss of autonomy, loss of the few things that work in a great sweeping away of those that don't.

People are not automatons. They show up only if they care.

What the town-hall meetings represent is a feeling of rebellion, an uprising against change they do not believe in. And the Democratic response has been stunningly crude and aggressive. It has been to attack. Nancy Pelosi, the speaker of the United States House of Representatives, accused the people at the meetings of "carrying swastikas and symbols like that." (Apparently one protester held a hand-lettered sign with a "no" slash over a swastika.) But they are not Nazis, they're Americans. Some of them looked like they'd actually spent some time fighting Nazis.

Then came the Democratic Party charge that the people at the meetings were suspiciously well-dressed, in jackets and ties from Brooks Brothers. They must be Republican rent-a-mobs. Sen. Barbara Boxer said on MSNBC's "Hardball" that people are "storming these town hall meetings," that they were "well dressed," that "this is all organized," "all planned," to "hurt our president." Here she was projecting. For normal people, it's not all about Barack Obama.

The Democratic National Committee chimed in with an incendiary Web video whose script reads, "The right wing extremist Republican base is back." DNC communications director Brad Woodhouse issued a statement that said the Republicans "are inciting angry mobs of . . . right wing extremists" who are "not reflective of where the American people are."

But most damagingly to political civility, and even our political tradition, was the new White House email address to which citizens are asked to report instances of "disinformation" in the health-care debate: If you receive an email or see something on the Web about health-care reform that seems "fishy," you can send it to The White House said it was merely trying to fight "intentionally misleading" information.

Sen. John Cornyn of Texas on Wednesday wrote to the president saying he feared that citizens' engagement could be "chilled" by the effort. He's right, it could. He also accused the White House of compiling an "enemies list." If so, they're being awfully public about it, but as Byron York at the Washington Examiner pointed, the emails collected could become a "dissident database."

All of this is unnecessarily and unhelpfully divisive and provocative. They are mocking and menacing concerned citizens. This only makes a hot situation hotter. Is this what the president wants? It couldn't be. But then in an odd way he sometimes seems not to have fully absorbed the awesome stature of his office. You really, if you're president, can't call an individual American stupid, if for no other reason than that you're too big. You cannot allow your allies to call people protesting a health-care plan "extremists" and "right wing," or bought, or Nazi-like, either. They're citizens. They're concerned. They deserve respect.

The Democrats should not be attacking, they should be attempting to persuade, to argue for their case. After all, they have the big mic. Which is what the presidency is, the big mic.

And frankly they ought to think about backing off. The president should call in his troops and his Congress and announce a rethinking. There are too many different bills, they're all a thousand pages long, no one has time to read them, no one knows what's going to be in the final one, the public is agitated, the nation's in crisis, the timing is wrong, we'll turn to it again-but not now. We'll take a little longer, ponder every aspect, and make clear every complication.

You know what would happen if he did this? His numbers would go up. Even Congress's would. Because they'd look responsive, deliberative and even wise. Discretion is the better part of valor.

Absent that, and let's assume that won't happen, the health-care protesters have to make sure they don't get too hot, or get out of hand. They haven't so far, they've been burly and full of debate, with plenty of booing. This is democracy's great barbaric yawp. But every day the meetings seem just a little angrier, and people who are afraid-who have been made afraid, and left to be afraid-can get swept up. As this column is written, there comes word that John Sweeney of the AFL-CIO has announced he'll be sending in union members to the meetings to counter health care's critics.

Somehow that doesn't sound like a peace initiative.

It's going to be a long August, isn't it? Let's hope the uncharted territory we're in doesn't turn dark.

Neville Health Care Update August 10, 2009

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Healthcare Bill is Huge Giveaway to ACORN

The reason ACORN and SEIU are now showing up to the Healthcare townhalls is simple...the bill is a huge giveaway to both.

First it was the stimulus bill that didn't create jobs for average Americans but was instead a big payoff to groups like ACORN. Then, there was the auto bailout deal with turned over the auto companies to the unions. That was another windfall worth billions.

Now, health care bills in both the House and the Senate mandate even more payola to ACORN
  • PG 65 Sec 164 is a payoff subsidized plan 4 retirees and their families in Unions & community orgs (ACORN).
  • Pg 95 HC Bill Lines 8-18 The Govt will use groups i.e., ACORN & Americorps 2 sign up indiv. for Govt HC plan.
  • Pg 321 2-13 Hospitals have oppt to apply for exception BUT community input required. Can u say ACORN?!!
  • Pg 469 - Community Based Home Medical Services=Non profit orgs. Hello, ACORN Medical Svcs here!!?
  • Page 472 Lines 14-17 PAYMENT TO COMMUNITY-BASED ORG. 1 monthly payment 2 a community-based org. Like ACORN?
From CNS News:

Washington ( - Sen. Christopher Dodd (D-Conn.), the man who is shepherding the health-care reform bill through the Senate, says he doesn't know for sure, but the controversial Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) could qualify to receive health-care grants under a provision of the bill that provides money for groups that are members of a "national network of community based organizations."

The grants are designed to fund groups that will "measure" people's health-related behavior on the community level, including whether they are gaining or losing weight, eating the right foods, getting exercise, using tobacco, or engaging in other personal behaviors targeted for federal monitoring by the secretary of health and human services.

[...] These grantees will be charged with carrying out a "community transformation plan," and the targets of their activities will include local schools, infrastructure and restaurants.

The bill specifically directs organizations receiving the grant money that they must "with respect to residents in the community, measure -- (i) decreases in weight; (ii) increases in proper nutrition; (iii) increases in physical activity; (iv) decreases in tobacco use prevalence;(v) other factors using community specific data from the Behavioral Risk Factor Surveillance Survey; and(vi) other factors as determined by the Secretary."
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